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What Goes Into Designing A Book? An Interview With Designer Laura Palese

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Kelly Jensen

Editor

Kelly is a former librarian and a long-time blogger at STACKED. She's the editor/author of (DON'T) CALL ME CRAZY: 33 VOICES START THE CONVERSATION ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH and the editor/author of HERE WE ARE: FEMINISM FOR THE REAL WORLD. Her next book, BODY TALK, will publish in Fall 2020. Follow her on Instagram @heykellyjensen.

I’ve always been into thinking about and analyzing book covers. Since they’re such a powerful tool in promoting and marketing a book, they serve a purpose that’s even bigger than trying to express what the book is about. Covers convey tone and mood, as well as attempt to persuade a reader to pick the book up, either because it’s a book meant for them or it’s a book they might like because they enjoy (fill in the blank comparable titles or authors).

One thing I’ve not put as much time and thinking into, though, is the design of the book itself.

A few years ago, in one of my initial phone conversations with my soon-to-be editors at Algonquin Young Readers, we discussed making my book Here We Are: Feminism For The Real World “scrapbook style.” I knew logically what that meant, and I also kind of knew it meant looking and feeling a little bit like Rookie‘s yearbooks. From my end, it didn’t mean much in terms of design; rather, it meant opening up to including work in the book outside of traditional essays. I could collect art and comics, play lists and top ten lists, and other ephemera that would add to the fun factor of the book.

It would be a designer who did the actual layout and creation of how the book would look.

I’ve never been one to set up expectations when it comes to publishing. Not because I’m cynical about it, but rather, because I know that it’s a business so I need to temper my hopes with the reality of publishing being a business and there being a bottom line to consider. In other words, my goal is to turn in the best work possible and hope that at the end of the day, it makes money so that I can keep doing it. But to say I didn’t at least think a little bit about what Here We Are might look like would be a lie. I did. I was curious what kind of design would be used for the book, if it would have a motif running through it, what color scheme might be used (I’d known from the start it would be two-tone, but I hadn’t known which two tones).

When I was presented the proof pages of the design for the book, though, I was blown away. It was better than anything I could imagine, and the tone it set — upbeat, approachable, fun — really worked well with the content, making even the essays with a lot of rawness to them feel like they could be read and understood and appreciated without becoming overwhelming. My book looks like the kind of book teens would pass from one to the other, where they’d be encouraged to contribute for themselves — which was something I’d hoped for but got nixed through the process of putting everything together.

Laura Palese is the designer behind Here We Are: Feminism For The Real World, as well as numerous other books, including a large assortment of cookbooks. I sat down with her to talk a bit about what goes into the process of choosing how to design a book and the sorts of iterations that might happen.

Be warned: you may never look at books the same way again…but that’s a good thing.

 

Kelly Jensen: Book Riot readers have certainly thought about the power of book covers, but we’ve talked less about what goes on between the covers design-wise. The first thing worth asking is also the most obvious: can you talk a bit about your background and how you got into designing books?

Laura Palese: Sure. It was actually completely by accident! My first job out of college (well, after a brief stint as a cake decorator) was as an Art Production Assistant at Clarkson Potter, and illustrated book imprint of Random House. At the time, digital photography was just starting to be used in publishing, so most books were printed using slides and negatives. It was my job to log-in the original artwork that was delivered from photographers, and to make sure every image was returned to them after the book was published.

I was an art history major in college and had never taken a graphic design course – I knew absolutely nothing about it. But during my time at Random House I worked very closely with the designers on staff and became curious about what they did. I was lucky enough to work with an incredible group of women, all of whom very generously served as my teachers and mentors. I learned design on the job and supplemented with some continuing education classes at art schools in New York City. Over time I worked my way up from an art assistant to a staff designer. 

 

KJ: What is your process when it comes to design? Do you read the book before diving in? Do you read a part of it and get an idea of what you’d like to do?

LP: I tend to work on a number of projects simultaneously, so unfortunately I don’t usually have time to read the entire book. But I definitely familiarize myself with the material by reading parts of the book, and I’ll often do a bit of research on the author. I usually spend a good amount of time looking at typographic examples pertinent to the book. The majority of what I design are cookbooks. So for example, if I’m working on a book from the cuisine of a specific country, I’ll research current and past typographic trends from that country. Street signage, works of local artists and designers, etc. Pinterest is such an incredible visual resource during this process.

KJ: How much creative freedom do you typically have when it comes to your work?

LP: I’m lucky enough to collaborate with an amazing group or art directors and editors. Before the start of a project, we’ll have a discussion about how we think the book should look, who it’s for, the likes/dislikes of the author, competing titles in the marketplace, etc. Making a book is an incredibly collaborative process, and there are many opinions that go into shaping how a book looks. So while there’s definitely room for creative freedom on my part, I feel very strongly that the main job of a designer is to take all of the incredibly hard work the author has done, and to try and make it shine. 

KJ: What inspires your design work and your personal aesthetic?

LP: Oh, that’s a tough one! I’m so lucky to live in a city where I’m constantly surrounded by beautiful things. I’ll very often see something while I’m out and about  incredible typography on a poster, a piece of fabric in a store, amazing restaurant signage) and snap a photo of it. So I guess I’m always mentally cataloging the things I see, for use in a future project. I suppose I tend to gravitate towards design that has the mark of the person creating behind it. I love anything with hand-painted or hand-drawn texture, typography that’s been hand-lettered, found type, etc.

KJ: You designed HERE WE ARE: FEMINISM FOR THE REAL WORLD. What inspired your design choices?

LP: I was so inspired by all the voices that came together to create the book, and all of the incredibly personal stories in it. The material is so powerful and I wanted to try and emulate that in the design. I wanted the reader to feel like they were holding an object that had the mark of a person behind it. So each page features my own handwriting or collage, or pieces of found paper that I hope create an authentic backdrop for the material.

KJ: Do you have any outtakes from HERE WE ARE that you can share? Design ideas that got scrapped early on?

LP: What a great question! I think most designers probably have a graveyard of designs that they wish had made it but never did. In the case of this design, the process was more of an evolution right from the beginning. With the help of the team at Algonquin, we kept adding layers until we were happy with the final design. So there isn’t really a design I can share that didn’t make it. What we started with doesn’t look all that different from how we ended up, just not quite as dynamic. I promise I’m not being secretive! The cover design definitely was definitely a bit trickier, as they always are. I do have some cover design ideas that were scrapped early on, and I actual didn’t end up designing the final version. So I’m hesitant to share early versions since the final design (by Laura Williams) looks fantastic.

KJ: What was the most interesting and the most challenging aspect of designing for HERE WE ARE?

LP: The most challenging aspect was creating all of the illustration and collage. I really wanted to make things that felt authentic, but that wouldn’t overshadow the amazing writing in the book. As I mentioned earlier, my job is kind of to be invisible. To make sure that I design something that’s visually appealing, but most importantly allows the content of the book to take center stage.

KJ: Cookbooks have been a big part of your portfolio of work. Can you talk a bit about how you begin to design a cookbook? How much do you as designer make choices on not jusy layout, but images, color palates, and so forth?

LP: Making cookbooks is SO fun! I love food, I love to eat and I love to cook, so the process is always incredibly enjoyable for me. The process is actually not very different from what I described above. Before each project, I spend time discussing the book with the editor/art director. We talk about what we think the design direction should be, and then the process remains collaborative until we land on a final design. I’ve been so lucky to work with incredibly talented chefs, food writers, bloggers, etc, all of whom have different personalities, points-of-view, cooking styles, etc and it’s my job to make sure that’s expressed on the page. From a technical perspective, the recipes need to be functional and easy to cook from.

KJ: What have been some of your favorite cookbooks to work on and why?

LP: Oh, I’ve worked on so many amazing projects! I just finished a book called Scraps, Wilt & Weeds, which is all about from the leftover scraps of ingredients that we’d normally throw away. The photography is so beautiful, and personally I think it’s so important to be mindful of food waste in my own kitchen. Chrissy Teigen’s book Cravings was so fun. She is hilarious – I love her voice. And her recipes are amazing! A few years ago I worked on a cookbook called Senegal, and I absolutely loved the entire process. I didn’t know anything about Senegalse cuisine or culture, and I learned so much working on the book. The author is so inspiring, and Evan Sung’s photographs are incredible. 

KJ: And what’s the best recipe you’ve tried from one of those cookbooks?

LP: Chrissy Teigen’s Thai lettuce wraps are awesome, and I’ve been dying to try Chicken Pot Pie Soup with Crust Crackers.

KJ: Is there a favorite part of your work in designing books? In other words, does one aspect excite you the most?

LP: FONTS! It’s true. I love fonts. At the beginning of every project I spend hours choosing a suite of fonts that will work best for the project. Very often that means getting to buy new ones, which I also love.   

KJ: What are some of your favorite books design-wise out over the last couple of years? What makes them stand out to you?

LP: Oh god, there are SO many talented designers out there. I spent a lot of time in book stores looking at new books and their designs. I love any book that Deb Wood designs. She is amazing – I’m such a fan of her work. A cookbook came out last year called Love & Lemons. I think the design is beautiful – I wish I’d done it!