This week, Jeff and Rebecca talk music streaming services, the wider podcast landscape, and even some talk about books.

This episode is sponsored by:

PodX

Only Ever her by Marybeth Mayhew Whalen

Bombas

We Hunt the Flame by Hafsah Faiza

Links discussed in this episode:

Roxane Gay’s Luminary exclusive

Michael Wolff has a Trump sequel called SIEGE coming out June 4

Barack’s latest reading list

First Audible Originals in partnership w/ Reese Witherspoon’s Hello Sunshine revealed

Jimmy P bringing back bookseller bonuses for a 6th year