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For Real

For Real is a biweekly nonfiction podcast that puts the spotlight on new books and old favorites that tell it like it is, or at least try to.

Episode 13Suffragists, Suffragettes, and Winning the Vote

This week, Kim and Alice take a deep dive into books about the campaign for women’s suffrage and the passage ...

Episode 12Scandal!

This week, Kim and Alice talk presidential scandals, Victorian affairs, and the inside scoop on the Jell-O dynasty. For Real ...

Episode 11Nonfiction Beach Reads

This week, Kim and Alice take a deep dive into types of nonfiction that are great for reading at the ...

10Revolutionary History!

This week, Alice and Kim talk Revolutionary War history, Persian empresses, and the tragic fire that society buried. While you’re ...

Episode 9Pride Month!

This week, Kim and Alice dive into some new books and backlist reads to read during Pride Month (although, of ...

Episode 8The Nonfiction of Book Expo

This week, Kim and Alice do a recap of some of the best nonfiction of Book Expo America, the publishing ...

Episode 7Memorial Day Inspired Reads

This week, Kim and Alice talk about books related to Memorial Day, lady serial killers, and some capital “R” Romantics. ...

Episode 6British Royals Past and Present

This week, Kim and Alice chat about the British royals they love (and love to hate), graphic memoirs (comics, not ...

Episode 5Mother’s Day and the Busman’s MBA

Kim is joined by guest co-host Jeff O’Neal to talk about two of the biggest nonfiction-related news stories of the ...

4.5Bonus: Jesmyn Ward Recommends

Please enjoy this bonus excerpt, courtesy of the¬†Recommended¬†podcast, featuring Jesmyn Ward recommending Edward E. Baptist’s The Half Has Never Been ...

Episode 4Short Nonfiction You Can Readathon

This week, Alice and Kim talk about dinosaurs, bird thieves, short nonfiction that's extra binge-worthy, and The Bachelor. Plus, Alice cheats and recommends some fiction seems like nonfiction, and some poetry.

Episode 3We Heart Television (and Also Books)

This week, Kim and Alice chat about the Victorian computer, an obsessive tennis coach, and how long we should hold ...

Episode 2Spring Has Sprung

This week, Alice and Kim talking about Jane Austen superfans, snuffbox mussels and the rare “dragon fish,” and books to ...

International Women’s Day

This week, Alice and Kim discuss Idaho extremists, the women who made the internet, and how closely you should identify with Lord Byron (among other things).

Episode 0We Heart Nonfiction

Kim Ukura and Alice Burton introduce For Real and talk favorite types of nonfiction and what they're reading now.